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Huway tum dost Jis kay: Pakistan’s Impotent Army “slammed” US on airstrike

Wednesday, June 11th, 2008

It was a funny news that balls like Pakistani Army slammed US on air strike, trying to fool entire Pakistani awam like their own supporters by sending message across that ,”We safe our borders”. From AFP:

 PESHAWAR (AFP) - Pakistan’s military condemned a “cowardly” US air strike that killed 11 Pakistani troops near the Afghan border on Wednesday, saying it could jeopardise cooperation in the “war on terror”.

It was a good laugh for late evening. Now wait a minute, will so called liberals have balls enuff to stand up and condemn against such millitancy by US army . Will guys like Najam have guts to come up with strong and visible condemnation like this one? Will so called liberals come out of their bin and codemn such millitant act by their Uncle Sam and condemn it? Will they follow their own advise which they keep giving their opponents like “yours truly” all the time to condemn terrorism act clear like bombing etc? I know they can’t. One needs courage to say it, specially it’s damn difficult for liberals to say a word against US, after all they are fed by US. How can they say a word while they know they would be kicked out next moment? After all they have to run their families too. ;)

This is why it has always been quite ironic as well as entertaining for me when liberals ignorantly,hypicritely and shamelessly troll one point all the time and make so much noise so that one believe in them anyway. So liberals, is this not a Beyghairat Act? will you force your elders to condemn this act violently which resulted killing of Pakistani soldiers, yeah Pakistani soldiers who were part of us? or you will continue to typical ignorant agenda here as well and hide your heads in sand?Choice is yours! All I know you guys get active when anything is done by your oponents, you pump up all your energy to express your haterd against those who you despise otherwise you wickedly as well as cowardly sit quietly. Sad, very sad!


Women’s Day:How Mushrraf empowered women in Pakistan.

Saturday, March 8th, 2008

Women in Pakistan will always be thankful of Mushrraf that he helped him to getrid of cruel Hudood Ordinance and empowerd them. Since today world is celebrating Int’l Women’s day, I would like to enlighten my readers about the empowered showered by Musharraf on our respected women.

Musharraf’s “Talibans” in action

“Where is my Protection bill?”-these women ask

Women never felt such freedom in Pakistan. They felt such a grea freedom that they are humilating another freely.

Long Live Musharraf’s style of Women rights


‘Islam reloaded’ in Turkey

Saturday, March 1st, 2008

Few days back my ancient IRC friend messaged me on MSN an Urdu link of BBC news with a message that “ye hota hay mardoun wala kaam aur khali dekh kar namaz parhna bari baat nahin” means ‘This is the thing which is done by men. Offering namaz by copying is not a big thing”. I laughed when I read his message after visiting the link. I don’t have Urdu version of that link but do have an English version. From BBC:

Turkey is preparing to publish a document that represents a revolutionary reinterpretation of Islam - and a controversial and radical modernisation of the religion.

I didn’t have to read the entire article to figure out what actually was being said, still I read it and it didn’t disappoint me. BBC says further:


The country’s powerful Department of Religious Affairs has commissioned a team of theologians at Ankara University to carry out a fundamental revision of the Hadith, the second most sacred text in Islam after the Koran

Before I add my words, allow me to add another piece:


But the Turkish state has come to see the Hadith as having an often negative influence on a society it is in a hurry to modernise, and believes it responsible for obscuring the original values of Islam.

Two things need to be noted. Negative influence on society and obscuring the original values of Islam.

Interesting thing is that the revision is being done in Turkey, the secular and so called modern state and Vatican of pseudo Muslim liberals and secularists around the world. Yeah same turkey who believes in freedom of speech of their own style. The “modern” Muslim secular state where people protest if First Lady of the country wears Hijab. tsk tsk.

So what do they mean by negativity here? Quite obvious! Jihad what else? Like non-Muslims, leftist with in my religion are also scared of Jihad. You will find them arguing about it on various Internet forums. Why non-Muslims are against Jihad that’s a separate topic. All I know that When Moses(AS) got into Middle east, His fellows a.k.a Jews refused to fight enemies and clearly told Moses(AS) that they would not participate and they didn’t! and Quran said something in which righteous Jews were challenged by Allah that if they were so pious then try to make a wish to sacrifice life for God. In short Jews and Christians always felt scared of giving their lives for Allah and when they tasted the spirit of Jihad during Crusades then they started propaganda against it. That propaganda has been renamed as Islamic Terrorism which they equate to Jihad because Jews and Christians are not ignorant like our leftist and more educated about Islam. They know quite well from their own sacred books that they could be only defeated by Muslims in final war and it’s only possible if Muslims follow their religion according to laws given by Allah rather by America and know the spirit of Jihad. So non-Muslims spread the ACTUAL NEGATIVITY in Muslim society by talking against Jihad so that Muslims get scared of it and surrender when they face them in war. The Jihad spirit was spread in more negative sense and got spiced up when ignorant right wingers suicide bombers started killing their own Muslim fellows. The leftist cult which has always been residue of any society as usual copied what they were taught by people of other religion(s) a.k.a right wingers of Christianity and Judaism and started preaching us about Modernism in Islam and tried to convince us that Islam needs to cope up with modern world . When I ask them what Obsolete things do they find in Islam, I find no satisfactory answer and they come up with most silliest excuses like keeping beard, doing Miswak etc. Those ignorant retards have no idea that Islam is such a religion which is easiest to follow and beneficial for others(not only for Muslims only!). Didn’t we all read in papers that how a Bishop in UK asked his government to apply some Shariah rules since they are way better for British society than their current rules?(That’s other thing it created a wave of fear among Christians that Islam would become part of their state). Our secularists are so ignorant that they believe that Islam is the religion which was applicable for the Saudi dessert only 1400 years ago and can’t cope up with modern world. If that was true then today many scientific things mentioned in Quran were not proved true later by Atheist scientists around the world and Bishop would not have demanded Shariah in UK. So what backward and awkward things do they find in Islam?

Back the statement given by my friend that is this “reinterpretation” is Mardou Wala Kaam. I laughed out loud when had read his statement. How seeking excuses of NOT following religion in its true shape is something which is courageous and act of a MAN?? I rather think that such step is rather a coward step since those people are afraid of following Islam in its true shape because they are not able to follow it thus willing to change it. As Iqbal had said something for righteous people of his time applies on liberals now:

Khud ko Badaltey Nahi Badal detey hain Quran

This is something which was done by Christians and Jews in their sacred books long time back and they lost the path and then Allah sent Quran and Muhammad(SAW) for all mankind. As it’s said in Urdu, Meetha Meetha Hap Hap Karwa Karwa Thoo. So if our leftist fellows are mentally impotent enough not to follow Islam in its true shape then it doesn’t mean they expose it infront of others by coming up with lame excuses. It’s their inability to cope up with Islam rather Islam is not capable to deal with things of all times. Allow me to share something personal.

Some of you might be aware that I am a computer engineer by profession and I write softwares. There was a time when I ran away from using Pointers in C++ and always tried my best to find alternative solution of my problem which most of time was not accurate and proper. I always used to speak against pointers among peers and always tried to give impression that pointers are useless while in reality pointers are more efficient way to deal with things which manipulate memory. Now If I am not able to understand it and don’t know how to use delete operator to fee up memory then it doesn’t mean pointers are bad. The problem was IN ME rather in pointers since I always tried to seek shortcuts. Same goes with so called Modern and intellectual illiterate Muslims, they hesitate to follow Islam in its true shape. They would run away from Prayers specially Fajr prayers and would give lame excuses for not offering prayers. The cult of hadith rejectors is one example of such silliness lie among so called Muslims.

I don’t know what kinda pathetic values are Original Islamic values for leftists, all I know Quran has already taught us about criteria of original values of Islam very clearly and nothing is between lines.

And obey Allah and the Messenger, that ye may obtain mercy(Quran 3:132)

In Surah Al-Mominoon, Allah explained what are the values of Islam which every MUSLIM should follow.(Quran 23:1-7)

 

1. Certainly will the believers have succeeded:
2. They who are during their prayer humbly submissive
3. And they who turn away from ill speech
4. And they who are observant of zakah
5. And they who guard their private parts
6. Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed -
7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors

Do I need to say more?

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Enlightened fools by Ansar Abbasi

Sunday, February 17th, 2008

It’s been two weeks that I didn’t get chance to write anything. I was in Islamabad on official trip which was hectic,tense and frustrating. My mother got ill too which she didn’t tell while I was Islamabad and I have been seriously planning to switch the job due to it’s relocation nature and would prefer to have one which doesn’t involve travelling a lot due to my family issue. So all these things didn’t allow me to thnk anything and write here therefore I am just sharing a touching article  by Ansar Abbasi which published in The News. Thanks Tariq bhai who shared this via Gtalk.

So called enlightened souls a.k.a Liberals/Secularists never mis a chance to amaze me(and others). The articles in The News is another example of liberal fascism. From The News.

“Sir if you don’t mind we are looking for some moderate faces,” was the first words of an organiser that pierced through our ears as soon as we sat on a sofa in the school’s office where the crew of a private television channel had arrived to interview parents of three short-listed students, including my child, for some sort of show/competition in Karachi.

eh,Moderate faces? this is the term which sounds more funny than weired.  So I am a moderate face because I am a clean shaved person? I don’t shave daily, does it mean the other day I start aproaching towards conservatism?What kind of these(liberals/seculars) morons are? As I always say that leftist cult MUST GETRID OF filth among their own community first than preach others(the right wingers) so that one could take these whiners seriously.


“Don’t abuse our Ataturk otherwise..”-Secular style of freedom of expression

Tuesday, January 29th, 2008

A liberal became a victim of Secularism. From BBC:

A Turkish court has handed down a 15-month suspended jail term to an academic found guilty of insulting the state’s founder, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

Professor Atilla had offended Turkishness a.ka Secularism by saying that early Turkish republic was not as progessive as it’s potrayed in textbooks. The statement was not tolerated by champions of freedom that is seculars & liberal govt and order to punish the professor to offend Ataturk’s vision.

Seculars and liberals always make lame attempts to prove themselves progressive,tolerant,modern and lover of freedom of expression. Seculars also don’t waste a minute to condemn their oponents i.e: those who follow religon and label them as extremist,fundamentalist or Mullah. Seculars also criticize their oponents as backward since they can’t face the criticism at all. Our made in Pakistan seculars even didn’t hesitate to label Jinnah as a secularist.

The professor further says:

I want to emphasise again and again that Turkey’s most pressing problem is freedom of expression

huh? no freedom in a SECULAR state? is he kidding?is it not true that seculars’ basic agenda to promote their relgion is Freedom of exrpression which they think was not provided by ANY religion thus promote seperation of church and state? Turkey is considered Vatican for Seculars and Liberals and they always sing praises of Turkey and always presented as ideal state where secularism is ACTUALLY implemented. So what if such things happen in Turkey and are not accepted by secularists. Hey! they still love freedom of expresion(about things which they despise) so if our in-house lefist can’t accept criticism then it should be ignored. itna chalta hay :-)

Such news have always proved my point that lefts who always promoted themselves champion of women rights,religions lovers and champion of freedom of expression are not less pathetic,moronic and fascist than those right wing guys who don’t like to listen oponents’ point of view. Pakistan needs to getrid of both kind of filth.

So my humble advice and request to all left-wingers(Seculars,Liberals,Humanist etc etc) here and there to first getrid of their own leftist fascist and extremist then come forward and criticize others to prove themselves a bit credible otherwise it’s darn funny and stupid to oppose something which they themselves promote one way or another.


Musharraf’s “Talibans” in action

Tuesday, December 18th, 2007

Our President General (Retardired) Pervaiz Musharraf despises Talibans and Talibanization and he has expressed his concerns numerous times in various interviews

What is Talibanization? West say something like following is an example of Talibanization and says Talibans mishandle women.

Now see the following picture:

The above picture was not shot in Afghanistan nor these guys are Talibans in *western* outfits. These are policemen who attacked on these poor ladies who were protesting for freedom of judiciary. Do you find any other difference? If picture in Afghanistan is an example of Talibanization then what’s that? Musharraf-ism? Which kind of Talibanzation Musharraf opposes? Somebody tell Musharraf that Talibanisation had already penetrated in Pakistan back in 1999 when he took the charge by kicking out another corrupt person from the country. Musharraf should be worried more about these local talibans a.k.a his advisors first before running after guys in shalwar Kameez and turbans.

Musharraf says:

Talibanization and extremism, however, represents a state of mind and requires more comprehensive, long-term strategy where military action must be combined with a political approach and socioeconomic development,” he added.

How true!! The picture above represents a state of mind. The practical example of liberal fascism and extremism.

Related Post: Where is my Protection bill?”-these women ask

Images Credit: Wikipedia & The Daily express

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“Where is my Protection bill?”-these women ask

Sunday, October 28th, 2007

Remember Musharraf’s famous Women Protection bill which was proposed to fool our elite and liberal class and making them to believe that all women’s issues have been sorted out by their messiah Mr.Musharraf who helped him to getrid of cruel Hudood Ordinance ?

But it’s also not a hidden secret how much our President cares about Women or Pakistani Women. Mr. Shaukat Aziz, the PM of Pakistan were always sweet and soft spoken with ladies and displayed his soft corner for women when he met Dr.Rice 2 years back.

I already shared in the beginning of this year what actually meant by “Women Rights” in Musharraf’s dictionary. That was just the beginning. Last month and then current month I came across two pieces of info which just strengthened my belief about Musharraf’s menality about diginity of Women.

First news is about a french scholar who was visiting Pakistan due to her research work and her stuff was stolen in Thatta. Later it was found that the lady was beaten like hell when she went to police station to inquire about her stolen material.

This was Jang news almost a month ago. What’s written there is beyong the exception. The male officials including SHO torutred the woman so much that she got fainted due to severe beating. Later officials locked the woman up in jail. I find no updates what happened to her and where’s she now.

The second news is actually two images about female supporters of PML(N) who were protesting on 12th October,2007 against Musharraf’s 1999’s military coup. This is something which I had see in papers, the practical implementation of Women Protection Bill.

 

Can you see guys? this is the freedom which our liberal women wants, this is what Musharraf wants. Don’t you see how much a group of women(policewomen) feel freedom to swing another woman because she was protesting against Musharraf? No No! trust me guys I am not being sarcastic at all. I am simply appreciating the freedom which is being demonstrated by these women.

Mr. President, these women are idiots, have no sense at all. They don’t know you have established women police cell with more power so that they have access to offend take care other women just like our policemen do. Don’t listen to them. After all you are actually a Saffak Maseeha of Faiz Ahmad Faiz.

Images and News Credits: Jang and The daily Express.


Malik’s Controvery: What’s wrong with Indians?

Sunday, September 30th, 2007

It seems it has become a national habit of Indians to create a fuss out of anything which is associated with Pakistan and they try their level best to defame Pakistan by every means yet they say , we accept Pakistan from the bottom of heart, whether its Feroz Khan, Indian Parliment case,offending Pakistani director and now Shoaib’s statement after final of T20 between India and Pakistan. What Pakistani captain said was something like:

I want to thank you back home Pakistan and where the Muslim lives all over the world

Everyone specially in so called secular India got pissed when Malik assumed that Pakistan means Muslims of world. Offcourse Malik made a mistake but not intentional specially when level of English skills of Malik and former captains is not a hidden secret. The other important thing is that Pakistan won its 1st world cup in 1992 and that was month of Ramadan. Pakistani team was again playing finals in month of Ramadan which is a holy month for Muslims. Beside that, Indian muslims have always been blamed to support Pakistani due to religion factor and in past so many times Muslims suffered due to same reasons. Keeping in mind all such things, if one makes such stupid statement then it doesn’t look good from the nation who just won a cup. Instead of showing glory and enjoying moments, Indians got another excuse to defame Pakistan. First time I heard voices agianst Malik’s statment on a Pakistani left-wing website where few Pakistani minorities(as they claimed) and then Indians started making issue of it. Indian media started bullshiting like they did in past, giving the impression of so called secularism in India. The most lame and ignorant article was written by Amit Bhatta Charya of Times of India. He writes.

When Shoaib Malik was appointed captain, many watchers of Pakistan cricket had hoped that the show of faith would end. In fact, the overt display of faith has since stopped, but Malik’s stray remark indicates that religion continues to plays a role in the team.

What a MORON! The ignorant is just saying that Indian team is a faithless team(read secular). What’s he talking about? I can see Srishant making cross on chest after every wicket, Bhajji(HarbaJan Singh). Dravid and Tendulkar used to look towards sky and pray God about success and thanking Him.

When Ireland defeated us on St.Patrick’s Day, their captain associated the victory with their catholic religion. Nobody made a fuss about it in world that Irish didn’t take care of their minority because the religion that time was not Islam. if Pakistan had played the match on 25th December and had thanked Christians around the world then nobody was going to whine about it.

an Indian blogger who made a comment on one of my old post, says:

I fully understand that Islamic sentiments are thoroughly stuffed in their mindsets but heyy.. be careful dude !! Not all the Muslims ! Don’t ever say that. The Indian team had two Muslims playing for the country and they were just as happy as any other Indian Muslim all over the world at India’s victory. Don’t ever think all the Muslims in the world are supporting you.

Ms.Cuckoo was obviously referring the Pathan Brothers who played a major role in India victory but look what happened to those MUSLIM Indians. CricketNext says:

Narendra Modi ignores Pathan brothers:

New Delhi: It is raining money on Indian players for their glorious ICC Twenty20 World Championship triumph in South Africa.

But the two Pathan brothers - Yusu and Irfan - who brought glory to the country have been ignored by their home state Gujarat.

While every other state has announced rewards for their cricketers, Gujarat has not announced any award for the duo.

and Cuckoo is worried about Kenria. what would you say now? Worried about Keneria or about pathan brothers. Keneria didn’t even play the match while pathan brothers helped you Indians to won the match, yet not being taken care by your government? Shame on your secular government!!

This is not the first time Indian Muslims were treated like that. Recently Indian star Amitabh’s son got married. Amitabh who is a hardcore Hindu didn’t invite any famous Muslim actor whether it was Dilip Kumar(Yousuf Khan),Shahrukh,Aamir Saif Ali Khan, Feroz Khan’s family(yeah same Feroz who sang praises of India in Pakistan *grin*) because all of them were Maleech?. This is how Muslims re named by Hindus. Muslims like Dilip Kumar are forced to change their name for sake of earning success in India, so even selling their identity don’t give them much respect and I feel pitty for such filthy secular status in India.

I showed the news about Pathan brothers to my good friend KUmar and he asked me to ignore it While kumar doesn’t understand that people like me do want to ignore things which have been happening for last 60 years but when I see such instances from across the border then I get confused whether I should trust in words like ,Pakistanis are our friends, we accept Pakistan as a state, Indians and Pakistanis are brothers. Right now, there is not an excuse of politicians. People like Cuckoo are not politicians who are ordinary Indians and they minds have been polluted as well. I don’t like to discuss issues like Kashmir,India-Pak relationship or secterian stuff like Sunni/Shia on my blog because it just creates nedless heat on both side but when I see an organized propaganda for no reason and without taking care of filth on their own side, I am forced to lash out and expose the reality which those people don’t discuss.

As it’s said, preaching starts from Home, Instead of asking Pakistanis to be friends with you, be nice with you, convince some polluted minds in your own country and make then convince about what you ask us to believe. You guys have won the cup , enjoy the moments rather messing up things. You guys claim to be biggest democracy and economy in world, we also believe in that so please try to be big hearts rather big retards.

Update: One thing which I forgot to mention that people who criticized most were Indian Muslims in majority rather non-Muslims Indians. They on different forum reacted as their religion,their Musalmaniat was put at stake by Malik’s statement.  I wonder where were their Musalmaniat  when they were abused  by majority of India. I can sense because they would blame us for these riots however we shouldn’t be blamed for things they face in their country. It’s not Pakistani Muslims’ fault if Indian muslims have to get agreed on compromises like inter-religion marriages, changing their identities to get jobs, Meena Kumari and Dilip are examples of such thing, cursing Pakistan etc etc but call spade a spade. We didn’t force any Muslim to stay in India. Many of my relatives are in Delhi,Kanpur and Merruth. My dad is a Kaanpuriya. They stayed in India while my grandpa and dad and his brother migrated. Neither we say to our relatives they r fools that stay in India nor they say we made mistake that migrated to Pakistan. Fact of the matter is that muslims suffer on both side of border. If followers of  Kalam says that Pakistan was a mistake so it’s also said that Muslims in India sacrificied a lot to lead life.

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MQM goons hijacked Sind High Court

Tuesday, September 11th, 2007

MQM goons a.k.a BhaiLog hijacked the SHC when suo moto inquiry about 12th May 2007 incident was supported to proceed. According to Dawn:

KARACHI, Sept 10: The Sindh High Court adjourned on Monday the suo motu inquiry into May 12 events for a week because of a massive gathering of workers of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement.

“The proceedings are being adjourned under compelling circumstances,” said a seven-member bench in a brief order after noting the request of lawyers appearing from the two sides.

Jang reports that several unidentified armed men were found in and around of SHC and police asusual acted like a silent spectator and did nothing:

So 10th September was the day when Judiciary was hijacked twice in Pakistan. First in the morning when Fedral govt kicked nawaz Sharif out and then later MQM goons repeated same in Karachi. It’s not clear whether MQM was following fedral govt or fedral govt followed MQM(Ref:12th May 2007).

But MQM’s vetran goon Kunwar Khalid Yunus denied such allegation and said that they as citizen came to hear the proceedings. Vetran goon further expressed typical Mullah phobia and said that this didn’t happen 1st time and in past mullahs’ friends from madraessahs used to do same when things went against them. Khalid couldn’t give a satisfactory answer when he was asked whether he was following alleged mullahs? I was quite amused after reading statement of Khalid. At one side his party condemn every religious party in Pakistan and declare them terrorist while on other hand they follow them.

MQM and Musharraf have been doing one mistake after other. It seems no sane and wise man has left in MQM which advise them that such tactics are proving them more guilty. Incase if MQM is banned, the goons will start another bloody movement in Karachi and will make us suffer more. On other hand, CJ is determined to give justice no matter what.

News Credits: The Jang and Daily Express

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Jinnah wanted a Secular Pakistan, w00t??

Saturday, August 11th, 2007
Mr.M.A. Jinnah wanted a secular state and we know it because he wished that on 11th August 1947 speech

You would have read/heard something similar lots of time in papers,TV programs or what not in wich secular participants tried to convince that Jinnah wanted a secular Pakistan rather an Islamic state. Before I move further,let me quote the famous ambiguous speech of Mr.Jinnah which labeled him a “Secular” .

You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place or worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed that has nothing to do with the business of the State

This is the main part of his 11th August speech which to preach Secular Pakistan.

Before I move further on this topic that is Jinnah and his views, allow me to learn what’s actually Secularism or what actually is being promoted in the name of Secularism. From Online dictionary:

1. Religious skepticism or indifference.
2. The view that religious considerations should be excluded from civil affairs or public education.
3. A doctrine that rejects religion and religious considerations.

If you ask any secularist about his belief, He would just say, I just consider all religion equal. In order words secularist don’t give a damn to religion and don’t consider religion worthy enough that they give it primary importance. If you ask them, are you an atheist?, they get mad as well as got scared and say, No NO we are not atheist we are just seculars!!. I ask what’s the difference? I get no sensible answer. Let me give definition of atheism as well. From same source.

  • Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
  • The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
  • Godlessness; immorality
  • the doctrine or belief that there is no God

Find the difference? Athiest reject God while seculars reject religion as primary element of leading life. I ask, Isn’t a religion associated with a God or a Super force? take any Abrahmic faith(Islam,Judaism or Christianity) or Hinduism, they all talk about a super force which is called Allah in Islam, G-d/Yahweh in Judaism,God in Chritianity and Om in Hinduism. All mentioned religons talk about a Super force. When we talk about super force then we also believe that He was our creator thus He defined some rules and regulations to perform different functions of His universe and set some commands for His living creatures. The set of commands ,rules and regulations which have been prescribed by Super force is called religion. So by rejecting religion means we are rejecting God’s commandment? Then how could seculars claim that they don’t hate religion? In urdu the term used for Secularism is La-Deniyat, that is No-religion. If I remmeber right that La is an arabic term for No or to negate something. So Seculars also reject the existance of any religion in their surrounding which is not differant than rejecting a super force. Atleast Atheists are better than these seculars, atleast they are honest enough and don’t demonstrate hypocrisy by promoting secularism in the disguise of Secular <Religion> where Relgion=Islam,Christianity etc.

Ok, this was my opinion which you might like to reject, why not take a look what is being said by father(s) of secularism?

From about.com

The term secularism was created in 1846 by George Jacob Holyoake in order to describe “a form of opinion which concerns itself only with questions, the issues of which can be tested by the experience of this life(English Secularism, 60)

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Charles Bradlaugh(1833-1891),the most powerful secularist of that time said in a public debate with Holyoake in 1870 said:

Although at present it may be perfectly true that all men who are Secularists are not Atheists, I put it that in my opinion the logical consequence of the acceptance of Secularism must be that the man gets to Atheism if he has brains enough to comprehend.

so If I want to summarize it, that’s the concept of Secularism is “all religion are equal”. So if we take a=Islam b=Christianity,c=Judaism and d=Hinduism then according to secular’s defintion:

a=b=c=d that is;
a=b=c=d=null, means “we don’t give a damn to any Religion”.

In short the term secularism is very vague and I don’t find any practical Implementation of so called Secularism or equality of religion. Talking about Sepration of Church and State and equating it with Islamic ideology is lame itself. If you read in detail about Sepration of Church and state movement then it was all started by American Athiests who were not Interested to bring their kids within a state religon which is not fair with non-Bible followers. If I was a bible follower, I could also second their thought because:

They entered into a covenant to seek the LORD, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul. All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 )

And if anyone still prophesies, his father and mother, to whom he was born, will say to him, ‘You must die, because you have told lies in the LORD’s name.’ When he prophesies, his own parents will stab him(Zechariah 13:3)

This is why they killed everyone who declared prophecy and they also killed Prophets like Zacriah(AS) and Jesus(AS)[as they claim]. Islam on other hand didn’t allow to kill any such false prophet or Apostate.

or when you are asked to follow this verse then it’s quite obvious that one would like the separation of such religion from state affairs. So demand of Separation of Church and state at that time was very fair. Since we have habit to get influenced easily with West so therefore we also wish to copy this thing as well. That’s other thing we only follow bad things of west rather good things.

These days ,three states in world are called countries who are big supporters of Secularism, America, India and Turkey. How much secular they are, I don’t need to explain you.

-India: is a Hindu dominated country where bigger minorities like Muslims are in trouble for long time. Babri Masjid destruction, Bombay/Gujrat Riots are just few examples of Indian Secularism.

-US: Eh, Mr. Bush, is it not enough to reject the idea of secularism in USA? USA is so SECULAR that they even promote In GOD WE TRUST. WHich God, they might not have idea but. umm.. Maybe Christian God or Jewish G-d?

-Turkey: The Vatican of seculars, what should I say about them? Read the related post about how Tolerent they are about their oponents.

I know I know I have gone enough beyond the topic but 1) this is not new 2) It was necessary 3) Aply both 1 &2.

So I am going to quote two different speeches of Mr. Jinnah about future state.

The Prophet of Islam (PBUH) was a great teacher. He was a great lawgiver. He was a great statesman and he was a great sovereign who ruled. The life of the Prophet (PBUH) was simple according to those times. He was successful in everything that he put his hand to from as a businessman to as a ruler. The Prophet (PBUH) was the greatest man that the world had ever seen. Thirteen hundred years ago he laid the foundations of democracy(occasion of the Holy Prophet’s birthday at the Karachi Bar Association on 25th January 1948)

What does it indicate? Was not Mr.Jinnah well equipped with biography of Muhammad(Saw). Was he not highly impressed with our most dearest Prophet(saw)? and why Not?? when non-muslims could admit the greatness of our Prophet(Saw) then Jinnah was still a Muslim.

On other occasion He said:

It is my belief that our salvation lies in following the golden rules of conduct set for us by our great lawgiver, the Prophet of Islam. Let us lay the foundations of our democracy on the basis of true Islamic ideals and principles(Civil, Naval, Military and Air Force Officers at Khaliqdina Hall Karachi on 11th October 1947)

Oh my GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Jinnah just burst the bubble of Secular Ideology!! What does he meant by “Golden Rules of Prophet(Saw)”? That was nothing but Sunnah of Rasool(saw) which Itself is based upon Quran and over all it’s called Islamic Shariah. SO Jinnah just wanted Islamic Shariah in Pakistan, which Shariah? not by Sunnis, not By shias no by somoe else but which is given according to Quran and Sunnah. This is also ordered by Allah and Rasool(saw) as well.

Is this speech not enough that How well equipped was Mr.Jinnah about Shariah and How much has he studied Quran? Shame on those people who criticized on his religious integration. If Jinnah was called Kafir-e-Azam(as seculars claim) then Seculars also called him a person with no knowledge about Islam. Retards of both sides deserve to be cursed heavily. The knowledge about Islam he had was more than our imagination. It’s also interesting to note that Jinanh was not a born religious man. He started studying Islam more when he got serious about separate Muslim nation. Lets for sake of argument we accept that Jinnah was religion hater in past, then, can’t he change his views? can’t he study about particular topic? why is he cursed for his past? All great companions(RA) were infidels before Islam. Is it sane and good to curse them due to their past life rather focusing on what they achieved later? Jinnah had studied Islam throughly that’s why came up with two classic speechs about His admiration for great Prophet(saw). On other pccasion Jinnah said:

What is it that keeps the Muslims united as one man, and what is the bedrock and sheet-anchor of the community. It is Islam. It is the Great Book, Quran, that is the sheet-anchor of Muslim India. I am sure that as we go on there will be more and more of oneness, one God, one Book, one Prophet and one Nation(All-India Muslim League, Karachi on 26th December 1943)

Another one:

Every Mussalman knows that the injunctions of the Holy Quran are not confined to religious and moral duties. From the Atlantic to the Ganges, says Gibbon, the Holy Quran is acknowledged as the fundamental code, not only of theology, but of civil and criminal jurisprudence, and the laws which regulate the action and the property of mankind are governed by immutable sanctions of the will of God”. Everyone, except those who are ignorant, knows the Holy Quran is the general code of the Muslims(message of Eid to the Muslims in September 1945)

Except those who are ignorants- JInnah closed the chapter of any future propaganda about his belief, about new state by giving these three speeches and called Ignorants to those who whine about Separation of Religion and State and want law other than Quranic. Ask from guys like HoodBhoy, Cowasjee and other pro secular movement about these speeches and ask them to use their brain to figure out what was actually Jinnah’s dream.

You ‘re free to go Temple,Church..- How the heck does it mean Secularism? as I said Jinnah had studies Islam then what Jinnah said, was it something against what Allah said in Quraan?

There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing(Quran 2:256)

in Urdu:

دین (اسلام) میں زبردستی نہیں ہے ہدایت (صاف طور پر ظاہر اور) گمراہی سے الگ ہو چکی ہے تو جو شخص بتوں سے اعتقاد نہ رکھے اور خدا پر ایمان لائے اس نے ایسی مضبوط رسی ہاتھ میں پکڑ لی ہے جو کبھی ٹوٹنے والی نہیں اور خدا (سب کچھ) سنتا اور (سب کچھ) جانتا ہے

Is it Not enough? If not then read the last aya of Surah Kafiron:

For you is your religion, and for me is my religion(109:6)

HOw Jinnah said something different than that when he said on 11th August?

When Omar Bin Khattab(RA) entered in Jerusalem which He(RA) conquered easily without any fight as it was a Biblical prophesy, Omar(RA) freed everyone to perform prayers according to his faith . When Moors ruled in Spain, they give equal protection to Jews and Christian and allow them to perform prayers according to their faith. Non-Muslims needed something like secularism because their Bible had no such thing of equal status neither there was such thing within Hinduism. Islam gave equal rights to non-muslims as well. Why do we muslims see something foreign when everything is mentioned in Islam? Does that not mean that those who reject the supremacy of Islam are ignorant and blind enough that they never studied Quran properly?

So what actually these seculars and liberals want in Pakistan? Jinnah’s dream? which dream? Islamic state, Offcourse not, they don’t want such thing. then what? Well.. what I think that they want to implement their own filthy “religion” in the name of Jinnah. What Jinnah wanted , I mentioned by quoting his speech. His speech of 11th August doesn’t reflect that He was a religion hater. His 11th august speech is according to Quranic Verses and according to government of Omar(RA) in Jerusalem.

Those who blame Jinnah as a secularist are those who always confuse about their own identity. I remember while reading an article by Cowasjee an year back, he mentioned that he met Salahuddin ,”Sallu”(Haveli Fame), Sallu got disturbed when he found the urdu meaning of secularism as Ladeniyat and tried to seek some term which don’t reflect seculars as Atheists. It brought on my face that How confused these seculars are.

People would keep blaming Jinnah for their own interest but what actually was Jinnah could be learnt from his speeches. When people could blame Muslims as followers of Mod God then how could they forgive Jinnah and labeling him as Secularist? Pakistan and Israel are two states which are based on religion. Pakistan was established on 27th Ramadan. How could Pakistan be a non-religious state which was described by Iqbal as:

Meer-e-Arab ko aaee thandi hawa jahan se,
Mera watan wohi hai, mera watan wohi hai.
(From where the Prophet Mohammed(saw) received a cool breeze,
That is my motherland, that is my motherland.)

which is based on Hadith of Rasool(SAw) in which He(saw) said that He feels attraction towards Hind- Why did Prophet(saw) attraction? These are few things which force to Ponder about creation of Pakistan for specific purpose. What Specific purpose? it was nothing but leading life according to Islam which Jinnah wished and spread Islam all over. Today Pakistan is the only country which is center of spreading Islam all over the world via various form of Tableegh. Pakistanis are busy in spreading message of Allah everywhere in world even in Israel. How such state could be established on basis of secularism? Nobody could give any sensible answer yet, even seculars. If Jinnah just wanted a secular state then why the heck did he get a separate state at first palace? was India not enough to provide security to Hindus or seculars believed Gandhi and Nehru impotent enough that they wasn’t able to guard their own fellows? If you ask seculars about then, they would start discussing everything but will not give you proper answer.

May Allah fulfill the dream of Jinnah which He saw as an Islamic Pakistan which follow the teachings of His admirer and our Prophet(saw).- Ameen


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