Zaid Hamid about Baitullah Mehsud
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 at 6:30 pm
While Karzai is now seeking help of Saudia to make some deal with Talibans in Afghanistan and Baitullah Mehsood is being said dead, we will not be sure who should be supported now since we betrayed every one around us, be it China,Taliban,Iran or Afghanistan(the anti-Taliban govt) and keep singing anthem that this is our war. We should not expect anything good from those who were betrayed by us and I am talking about FATA guys and Talibans. We have screwed up ourselves, no one could be blamed.
Zaid Zaman who is called Khalifah of Yusuf Kazzab and was a warrior during Afghan war back in 70s talking about real face of Baitullah Mehsud in current crisis.
P.S: Eid Mobarak to every one.
Categories: politcs, Ignorance, pakistan, Islam, military, Nothing last forever, disaster, India, America, Musharraf, crisis




on October 1st, 2008 at 9:26 PM
http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=6156&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Another face of the ISI mouth piece and Musharraf’s sympathiser - Mr Zaid Hamid
by N. Shahrukh
Ghalib’s verse which later became a proverb “Hain kawakib kuchh, nazar aatay hain kuchh” is true for Mr Zaid Hamid, the fiery young expert of strategic issues and Jihad who has shot to fame in a few months through a programme Brasstacks on TVone.
Yes, Zaid Hamid is really IMPRESSIVE and he is taking the simple idealistic people of Pakistan, especially youth and women by storm. Had I not known him for the last 20 years, I would, too, have been all praise for this ‘new’ bright face on the TV talking about Zionism, Muslim conquests, Afghan Jihad, good and bad Talibans, and what not through his self-sponsored TV programme.
Just a REMINDER and WARNING to all my friends who trust my words:
If you guys remember the Pakistan false prophet, YUSUF ALI, who was arrested and sentenced to death by the Lahore High Court and then murdered in Kot Lakhpat jail by a fellow prisoner - this guy Zaid Hamid was known as Zaid Zaman at that time and was the Khalifah of that Kazzab. Zaid is still leading that cult which belongs to the firqah batinyah of sufism and they have a different aqeedah altogother which they only profess within their inner core. Many of my personal friends fell prey to his charisma in the 1990s, some of them reverted back to Hidayah and were instrumental in filing a case against Yusuf Ali which ultimately lead to his death sentence and the cult members dispersed for a few years.
All of the followers of Yusuf Kazzab are now gathering once again in Islamabad and after 11 years Zaid Zaman has reappeared as Zaid Hamid.
I first came to know about Zaid Hamid when he acted as a translator to Hekmatyar in 1989 during his visit to Karachi. I was really impressed by the bright faced young engineer from NED University who spoke excellent Persian, Pashto, Urdu and English. Later, I came to know that the training centre for Pakistani mujahideen in Posta Fez, Jalalabad was run by this man.
I soon got introduced to new friends who were part of his team in Afghanistan. I even tried to run away from home in 1991 at the age of 14 to go to Afghanistan but was some how caught and persuaded by my family to refrain. In the same year I distributed several cassettes of a documentary - Qasasul Jihad - produced by Zaid Zaman, which showed live scenes of combat between Afghan mujahideen and Russian forces and was the first of its kind. For me Zaid Zaman and his team were like the re-incarnation of the heroes of Muslim medieval history.
However, soon Zaid Zaman was the centre of a scandal of misappropriation of funds of a large UK-based NGO, Muslim Aid, of which he was a representative in Pakistan and Afghanistan. He also then parted ways with Hekmatyar and Haqqani and joined the ranks of Ahmed Shah Masood. Later he abandoned Jihad altogether and became a Sufi.
In 1994, when I was in aitikaf in Ramazan, one of Zaman’s close associates, who was also a very close friend of mine, came to meet me and started talking strangely about the “real” meanings of Islam denouncing each and every known Islamic scholar. He said that all translations and commentaries of Quran till date were blasphemous. He also said that every century has an ‘Imam-e-zamana’ who we should take bayah (oath of allegiance) of and he would soon arrange my meeting with that Imam.
Alhamdulillah, because of my strong beliefs I never ever met that so-called Imam-e-zamana but many of my friends fell into the trap. Soon, Yusuf Ali was being invited to dinner parties in many of my friends’ homes who were seen holding beads (tasbeeh) in their hands and preaching zikr and sufism here and there.
I lost many of my closest friends as I felt very uneasy with their beliefs and discussions. The basis of their belief was a ‘maudhu’ hadith that Allah (SWT) created the noor of Muhammad (SAW) before the creation of the Universe. That ‘noor’ will remain till eternity and even if the Prophet (SAW) is physically not with us today, his noor is present in the ‘Imam-e-zamana’ and hence he should be followed as the Prophet (SAW) was by his companions. Na’aauzubillah!
Meanwhile, Muhammad Tahir of Weekly Takbeer broke the news of Yusuf Ali and his cult quoting statements of some of the defectors who realized what was wrong and were ready to go to court against this fitnah. Yusuf Ali was accused of claiming to be a false prophet, immoral practices including sexual abuse of his women followers and homosexuality. Soon, a case was filed against him and the Tahaffuz Khatme Nabuwwat people also became a party.
Yusuf Ali was sentence and sentenced to death based on irrefutable evidence of his misguided beliefs including the claim of false prophethood.
Click to the link below to read a BBC report by Zafar Abbas on the death sentence of the Pakistani false prophet Yusuf Ali:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/867449.stm
The Tahaffuz-e-Khatm-e-Nabuwwat office at Numaish, MA Jinnah Road and journalist Muhammad Tahir still has the record of that case and clippings of related news reports containing statements of witnesses who were once part of the cult themselves.
The name of Zaid Zaman Hamid also appeared in several of the news reports appearing in those days in Takbeer, Ummat, Khabrain, Jasarat, etc as he was the key promoter and khalifa of Yusuf Kazzab and the witnesses during the court proceedings and the press statements mentioned his name.
According to my knowledge, Zaid Hamid is still leading that cult in Islamabad and sources close to him confirm that he still proclaims the same beliefs of Yusuf Kazzab. It is not confirmed, tough, whether the new “Imam-e-zamana” is Zaid Zaman himself or some other person.
If you want to warn your friends and family from this fitnah, please spread this message to everyone you know.
May Allah (SWT) guide us all to the right path. Ameen.
on October 2nd, 2008 at 8:28 AM
these all are hypocrate.
none of these is sincere with pakistan more than Baitullah Mahsud
on October 3rd, 2008 at 4:39 AM
Salamalaikum
Daftar (or what ever zabr/zair/paysh is on daal)…a hypocrate is not defined by his sinister means for Pakistan. Sincerity with Pakistan won’t count on the day of judgement. I would say Bhutto (not the daughter) was pretty sincere to Pakistan; of course, a liberal, socialist, Western Pakistan. But, he was dedicated to (West)Pakistan. But, who would among the just people deny of his being a munafiq (as defined by Allah)?
on October 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Adnan bro you should be careful in making your mind about Zaid Hamid. He does not follow any secret society or sect. He is just a Muslim sufi. Who believe in Islamic Tasawwuf.
I know you like another understanding of Islam so you will not agree with him but to defame such a person or contributing in this defamation campaign will be a great sin. He said every thing he could against all evil powers including America and Isarel and perhaps said it better then many could do. He is certainly not a agent of any one. He is just a sufi who doesn’t believe in killing Muslims for any cause. All Muslim Sufis did the same. It is a great sin to kill a Muslim. Those Muslims who are killing innocent Muslims should be condemned openly. Jihad can only be fought against Kuffar. If our governement is supporting America then it is our job to stop them through protests.
There are some persons who have started a compaign against him because he talk about Spirituality. Most of those who talk against him are Salafis. If he is wrong then you have to blame those great sufis who singly handedly converted thousands of non Muslims in subcontinent and all over the world and are still doing, all of them are wrong, Allah maaf kare. So be careful.
on October 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Also have you verified it that he is associated with Yussuf Kazzab. How you know for sure.
visit this link
http://www.new.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2373072738&topic=19314
on October 3rd, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Dear Ahmad,
Initially like others I also got URL about his past but then I talked a person(who was my colleague) who was with Yusuf Ali and Zaid hamid in 90s and he confirmed that all material about him is true
on October 13th, 2008 at 6:34 AM
Hey admin, that’s still very shakey. Some unnamed person unknown to potentially most of the readers of this blog, confirms that Zaid Hamid used to be involved with some other firqah in the 90’s, and we’re supposed to buy that as definitive and conclusive?
I’ve given this whole Zaid Hamid episode a great deal of thought, in hindsight, with the false presumption that everything would become clear and I’d get to the truth here, if I just look at all these things clearly enough. I’ve probably read that article posted in the earlier comment about ten times. That’s article’s been reproduced word for word in so many different places. If you do a google search for “Zaid Hamid”, even blog posts that are a couple of months old, have had this article posted in their comments recently. It’s almost as if there is a drive to dig up every reference to Zaid Hamid there is on the Internet and attach this article to it, polluting Zaid Hamid’s message.
But the more I look at this article, the shallower and lamer it seems. The entire basis, foundation, and integrity of the facts mentioned are based our, as “friends, trusting his words”. There’s strong evidence given about this yusuf ali character, about his past, news about him on the bbc website, but there’s absolutely no evidence tying Zaid Hamid to him. For reference, the author of that website where this article was originally published, has just cross-referenced to other articles on his own website. Normally you reference other books, articles, and other media not published by you, to establish that your opinion is actually supported by other people who are experts in this field. In this other article on his website, he claims to show emails from Zaid Hamid, trying to get stuff published on this other “international intelligence/analysis website” owned or run by the author of the article. That website’s not even online, which makes this whole thing appear rather dubious.
Like I said, I had given a great deal of thought to this whole thing, but I realized that just by giving this a great deal of thought won’t provide me with conclusive proof about Zaid Hamid or the authors of the article. We simply don’t have enough evidence to come to an objective conclusion.
The Quran teaches us to make decisions based on what is ‘zaahir’(apparent). We are bound to make mistakes, but that’s the best we can do. From what is zaahir and apparent, Zaid Hamid hasn’t tried to lead us all towards some ‘taffarraki firqah’(wrong/seperatist sect). I’ve seen every Yeh Ghazi episode that was aired during Ramazan, and I’ve seen nearly every BrassTacks episode online, and based on that, all he’s done is give our nation, and indeed muslims in alot of different places, hope. In this time of turmoil and chaos, that matters alot.