Expelling Qadyanis from college: Haven’t we forgot our Shariah?
Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 5:48 am
via Awab’s blog:
BC Urdu reports that a group of 23 Ahmedi students having been expelled from a Medical College in Faisalabad on 4th June 2008. The pretext was that it would create a law and order situation because the Islami Jamiat-e-Talba (IJT) had protested that these students were propagating their religion which these students deny. Even if this were true, whether they have or do not have the right to do this can be looked at by a court of law. Expelling the students from the college is illegal and usurps the right of Pakistanis of any religion, color or caste to have education. Some of them have spent four or five years in this college already.
I don’t know how to react on such violent act by a student Union. I can’t grasp any genuine reason at all. Just because they were discussing their belief, they were expelled? Why? I mean what kind of Muslims are we that we feel so fragile in our beliefs that someone’s words would send us away from our religion. Now I would like to ask IJT guys that how can we say anything to Americans and others NOT to do anything against Muslims while we ourselves doing same with minority. Can we convince them to allow us to preach Islam in US ? Will they allow us? What if they also expell us similarly? Why don’t such moron Muslims understand that dialogue is the best way to convince others about your own belief? Don’t IJT guys think that we missed the chance to save these qadyanis to go in Hell by filling more hatered in them against us? Don’t they think they ruined the hopes of many families just because of their beliefs? Don\t they think that tomorrow their kids could be expelled from US due to caps and beareds? This is not good, this is not Islam. This is nothing but fascism. If you guys had no ability to spread blessings of Islams to them then it doesn’t mean you punish someone else for your own ignorance and mental impotency. I feel disgusting. What IJT guys did is not part of Islamic Tableegh. If it was then today Omar(RA) was remembered as an infidel rather a 2nd Caliph and great companion. We have really forgot our shariah. *sigh*- Our own belief has become so fragile tht we feel we would abandon Islam if we start living among Non-Muslims. Shame on us! Shame on us!
on June 9th, 2008 at 8:07 AM
For the friend who wanted to be anonymous. I would request him to contact me via email(given in CONTACT option) so that I can contact him personally and explain my point.
I might not be able to reply for 2-3 days as tomorrow’s my dad’s surgery and I would be there.
remember in prayers.
on June 9th, 2008 at 9:18 AM
Mr Siddiqui,
AoA,
Knowing your staunch anti-ahmadi views from wikipedia and atp, I am refreshed to see your protest against this cowardly act by PMC administration. There is a lot of criticism against this action by the educated class in Pakistan. I hope this sways the current government to act against the extremist elements in our country and weed out the violence and bigotry from our universities.
Kind Regards,
Lutful Islam
on June 9th, 2008 at 9:53 AM
Hi Adnan,
This is D_a_n from ATP…you might remember me from certain posts..
I just read you post above on the students being expelled and quite honestly…it brought a smile to my face and I don’t know what to make of it…as I would not have expected such a comment coming from you..as based on your comments back at ATP..I had (quite reasonably) created a mental profile of you…
I now believe that my profile is flawed and I would like to make that admission on your own forum….
your post here…good stuff and something i completely agree with it…
I will however continue to oppose comments from you (forcefully as ever) on ATP that I disagree with and this has ofcourse no impact on you..my mental profile of you will not need to be re-tooled and will continue to evolve…
on June 9th, 2008 at 10:54 AM
DAN, offcourse this is not your fault. For liberals anyone against them is a Mullah,molvi or a right wing fascist. While on other hand I respect religious associates and clergy as much as I can my parents. In short I dont like to prove myself educated by becoming Western mouthpiece.
You will not get at all. I am not favoring Qadyanism or any such thing. What I did is still based on my belief about my religion so hopefully I should not be considered an ally of leftist now because I despise both lefts and rights around me who keep forcing to swallow their definition of religion.
As far as my comments on ATP, ATP’s wickedness might not be hidden from others behind the innocent face of Najam but me and many others know how adil is used to censor many comments which usually trash the so called liberalism and humanism he preaches. He censored a post of a news link in which was discovered tht bombers were targetting Musahrraf and they were family members of kids who were slaughtered by Musharraf. Adil hide that news as it could burst his bubble. This is not new for me and many others who r regular on ATP and often contact me via mail.
on June 9th, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Lutfullah, I would just say that I am against Qadyaniat not a Qadyani. A big difference. I would not send some one away from me due to his/her belief despite of his/her good behaviour with me and hug a MUSLIM even if hes busy in backbiting and hurting me. This is not according to Sunnah at all. I have friends who r qadyani and I have many friends who r shia. Hope its enough to express my point of view.
on June 9th, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Congratulations Adnan,
You have earned yourself some points, see you got DAN happy too.
on June 9th, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Wow!!! a sad and an unfair incident.All the best to expelled students and hope that adminsitration of medical college will realize that those students earned their right to study there.
Dee
on June 9th, 2008 at 2:32 PM
It’s a very shameful act for Pakistan not to be able to recognise the basic fundamental rights of minorities in Pakistan. Bullying, Threatening, Beating, Persecuting, Exploiting, Expelling and Killing of Ahmadis continue in all parts of Pakistan. Education institutes are places where the highest level of Human rights needs to be observed. Why was injustice done to the 23 Ahmadi students? What was their fault? Just that they call them self Ahmadis? Closing ones eyes and suppressing injustice is not a solution.
I can further suggest to the Principal that if he wasn’t able to control the situation, he should simply have resigned from his post (finding his self unfit to do justice to safe guard the basic human rights of Human beings). Why coming under the sub due pressure of the Jamat-e-Islami extremists? Why expelling all 23 Ahmadi students and exploiting their career at large?
on June 9th, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Adnan…
your post disappointed me…I had the intellectual integrity to come on YOUR forum and accept that my profile of you was flawed and that was that..
the courteous and ‘well bred’ thing would have been to be gracious and move on…But No…you had to insult my inteligence by saying that I am an western mouth piece and that ‘you will not get at all’…very disappointing and showed a distinct lack of grace and class…
you mean to say that by calling me a western mouth piece you are de-legitimising my claim to be a Muslim…it is EXACTLY this habit of the Mullah that turned me away from them…
I would like to know who gave you a special look into my heart…how many times do I pray…wether I have a proper beard or not….and how many destitute Families Allah SWT is helping me support and live a dignified life….
When the Mullah Earns my respect…He will have it…
Till then he will have to do what I have done so far in life…work my behind off to be able to command respect..in professional and personal life…
That is a lesson I have learnt from my forefathers…it is a good one..
on June 10th, 2008 at 1:57 AM
It’s truly amazing how the extremist mullah’s in the name of protecting Islam continue to do things that present Islam in such a distorted manner, that Islam becomes the laughing stock of all religions to the rest of the world. I wonder, have any Christians, Hindu’s, or students of any other religion been expelled from this university because of their religious beliefs? I have never heard of such a thing! The Pakistani intellecuals are leaving Pakistan due to limited opportunity as it is and instead of trying to conserve and retain these intellecutals and professionals, we keep pushing them out and breeding more and more ignorance. This is the reason why in the history of the Nobel Prize, only a handful of muslims has ever won this honor. And even then one person, Dr. Abdus Salam was an Ahmadi. So how is it possible, that out of a population of over 1 billion people, only 2 or 3 people from among the Muslim Ummah has ever won this prize?
When will the Muslims wake up? Until and unless the Muslims as a whole will not respect and protect the rights and beliefs of minorities (both muslim and non-muslim alike), Allah will continue to punish us at the hands of other nations.
The expulsion of those Ahmadi/Qadiani students is wrong in the highest degree and should be condemned. They should be allowed to return to school immediately.
on June 10th, 2008 at 2:01 AM
Indonesia orders Qadiyanis to stop spreading deviant teachings. A joint ministerial decree ordered the Qadiyanis to “stop spreading interpretations and activities which deviate from the principal teachings of Islam.”
9 June, 2008 - AFP
on June 10th, 2008 at 4:39 AM
Salamalaikum
I hope your father had a successful surgery, inshaAllah. May Allah give him complete shafa.
Protesting and other actions of IJT can be argued and indeed I don’t like their behavior, but you should make a one-sided criticism of this situation. If these students were involved in missionary activities then they deserved expulsion, and that’s the least of the punishments. It’s fairly obvious that they had been warned before this action took place. Just because IJT was involved in this doesn’t mean the final action (if the accusations are true) was wrong.
on June 10th, 2008 at 6:41 AM
@adnan, do u knwo wat qadyanis have been doing in ribwa?
do u know who was behind expelling bearded persons from PIA?
do u know who is behind all such activities?
this is Qadyni lobby.
Qadyanis kay satth Social boycott ka kehtay hain Ulma. They dont deserve any place in muslim country, Kafir is some thing else and qadyani is some thing else.
I think u shud do soem more research and ask a few scholars abt Qadyanis.
on June 10th, 2008 at 8:48 AM
Dan, I have experienced yo enough on Adil’s website. yo are not new for me so don’t get innocent tht I am insulting yo. Please read what I have written above. I despise both left and right wing extremist whethr it’s form of some religious zealot or some liberal fascist It’ quite clear and nothing between line. On one side you re saying yo were wrong but then you have similar tone like you have set for me on ATP. I have no issue with you neither with other but do keep this in mind that your posts on ATP always reflected yo as western mouth piece by abusing Mullah ALL THE TIME without giving any concrete reasons. Such arguments were never my cup of tea.I m in hurry so can’t engage you further at the moment.
@IUnknown: I might know more than you and i dont consider them Muslims too but still i feel that action was not good.
on June 10th, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Adnan…
in my last post..my basic point was Grace and Class Adnan…Grace and class…
something which was instilled in me since birth…
sadly neither seem to have touched you..
PS: I was admitting that i was ‘wrong’ to have a particular profile of you developed..and clearly there was more to your views but I had nothing more to go on except you ATP post…hence I was ‘Gracious’ enough to admit that…QED!!
PSS: I gave my reasons for being against the Mullah…and if you want to see what constitutes living under Mullah’s then might I suggest sometime living in saudi…plus I didnt see you making a beeline for Afghanistan pre 2001!
again…Grace and some class Adnan…good qualities to have..if you’d like a private tutorial I’d be glad to oblige
on June 10th, 2008 at 10:29 AM
@ Adnan…
I hope your father is recovering well from his Surgery…
and I would like to concede that you run a fair blog as far as comments go..ie, allowing my posts which disagree with you rather forecefully….good stuff..
on June 11th, 2008 at 3:32 AM
Aslam-o-Alaikum to all;
This was indeed a sad day for Islam. I know Islam as a relegion of peace, harmony, love. a relegion who liberated world from the the darkness of Ignorance. Who gives freedom of speech, who is the most advocate of human rights.
I dont care what ever the beliefs of Qadiyaniz but that incident and discussion from some of members on this forum reminds me those days when Hazrat Muhammad(pbuh) was preaching in Mecca.
If this action was correct and we cant listen any world about our religion than Naooozu Billlah what those kuffar did was right??
Thats my question???????
If its right? then why we muslims have the right to preach our religion and advocate our beliefs?
on June 11th, 2008 at 12:26 PM
This is highly disgraceful incident. Ahmadis are do not hurt anyone becouse they believe in LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE. Then why they are being subjected to such a violent action.
on June 11th, 2008 at 1:34 PM
@abcd: DAN is still not happy
@DAN: I think it’s gonna extend to a useless contest, I would like you review your ALL comments at ATP and then here and then correct me if I am wrong. as far as comments go, this is not ATP so no comments are censored even if they have lots of “galis”.
-What all you keep say about Molvis etc is based on what you see on media. There is not a single instance on ATP you made a comment which was based on your personal experience/observation after visiting some madarassah/molvi or Alim. Ifact I believe you wouldn’t have ever sit in some mosque/palace to listen Bayan of a molvi because for you that would be old fashion HEAVEN vs HELL thing. I am also sure you have never reviewed any madrassah syllabus in your life, infact no anti-Madarssah was every to give a copy of syllabus to put weight in his/her comments.
- In your very first post here, you said you gonna disagree with me anyway which you have right. On same note you admit you had a wrong perception about me. Needs courage to admit something which you had and it should be appreciated.
- then you got pissed when I said Western mouth piece. It was a general statement for all psuedo liberals who don’t speak different languages what West wants to feed me via FOX, CNBC and now GEO daily. If you are different then them then why didn’t you try to explain your point? most of your points were only NEGATIVE rather had some explanation which was quite boring for me atleast.
-Now in your very latest comments who were filled with wisdom pearls try to tell me that:
in my last post..my basic point was Grace and Class Adnan…Grace and class…
something which was instilled in me since birth…
sadly neither seem to have touched you..
Self praising? ehe Ok i don’t mind. What I think you are pretty confused here about me, not able to judge on which slot should I be put. Similarly you seem confused about molvis and religious issues as well. I would request you to sit back and spend some time to figure out things you say, if somethig confuses you then try to seek truth. What you face is an issue with every body. 5 years back I used to run away from Molvis(entire cult) due to some black sheep but thankfully Allah did guide me at right time and save me to join the ranks of those who keep abusing Molvis/Scholars for no reasons. Alhamdollilah Allah gave them some fine molvis in my life who were pretty awesome and decent and opposite to what you know via West.
Thanks for asking about my dad, Mashallah he’s quite a lot better and recovering. Hope your family is going well too at your end.Ameen.
p.s: I wouldn’t like to continue this further here. If you re interested(yes if you), contact me off the site. Contact options are already given.
on June 12th, 2008 at 4:29 AM
those ppl who are saying Qadyanis havent done any harm shud dig deeper and see wat they have done. Such things dont get published in news papers
on June 12th, 2008 at 7:29 AM
@ Adnan…
am not confused at all and that is an impression that you have drawn from what exactly is and will remain a mystery…
and what you said in your post underscores my point EXACTLY why I hate Mullah’s and wish them nothing but ill…Let me explain please:
you state that I would never have visited a mosque and/or madrassa and have never sat for a bayan etc…
how typical of a Mullah to sit in judgement of another Momin’s faith..my view of Mullah’s ia based on VERY close interaction with them and their lack of respect for the faith of other Muslims who do not think like them, look like them, eat like them, dress like them etc….basically General Purpose Fitna..
and you sit in judgement of my Faith and my commitment to my Deen to make my life better..that is disingenous to say the least as you dont know me, you have a 50-50 probablity of being wrong…
I have been in close contact with Mullah’s…have lost very good decent and upright friends to this cancer (their families have lost them as well and they are now jobless zombies under the control of an Amir)…
I have been to multiple Seh-roza’s in the Punjab and seen nothing but pointless discussions on minutiea and on tafarka..Fitna even…
I saw other Momin’s damned to hell and I experienced an utter aversion to any and all queries regarding reason and logic as part of faith (read Averroes - Ibn Rushd)…
I saw pointless hours of discussion on things which held no value to improving my qualities as a Muslim..
I saw Huqul Ibad cast aside as an irrelevancy…
I saw people being barinwashed and stolen from families who needed them and from their legitimate careers…
I saw much that was disagreeable…I saw them curse the founder of our country Mohammed Ali Jinnah…I saw them curse at Men who did not have beards…
I saw them curse our Shia brothers as pigs…Again..Agents of Fitna…
This can go on and on and on….
I saw them create differences between Momin’s where none should have existed…and the obsession with Facial hair was complete and total…
I could go on and on and on….
and then you sit i Judgement that I have never been inside a Mosque…Pathetic…
You Sir…have no Honour…
on June 13th, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Adnan,
Ignore this guy DAN, hee sounds like a ‘Kala Angrez’, who think reading a few books gives them a higher intellect.
Abu-jahal used to think along the same lines, but he did not submit to Allah, even though he witnessed proofs after proofs. Our prophet termed him Abu-Jahal, and Insha Allah till Qiamat people will call him Abu-Jahal.
on June 13th, 2008 at 6:26 AM
@D_a_N: Islam per amal na kernay kay bahanay bhot hain but those who want to act always do it, doesnt matter if they get in their little minds or not. You should have consulted a good scholar (which u beleived to be good).
Im too much surprised that we beleive in theories of maths, physics which we never ever understand but when it comes to islam, eh!! shamefull isnt it?
@adnan: the qadyanis there in universtiy torn the posters which were written in Praisal of Nabi(SAW) and those filthy qadyanis did even “naaray baazi” against Nabi(SAW). they should have been killled rather than expelled.
I have read this new today. Those Qadyani and shia backed news papers didnt publish it truly just to pose that Qadyanis were innocent. Duh! those pigs
on June 13th, 2008 at 11:38 AM
[IUnknown Says: the qadyanis there in universtiy torn the posters which were written in Praisal of Nabi(SAW) and those filthy qadyanis did even “naaray baazi” against Nabi(SAW). they should have been killled rather than expelled. ]
I want to know the exact content of the posters. Does the praise of Holy Prophet (saw)constitute the following statements.
radde qadiyaniat, boycott of qadianis, qadiyani fitna, khatme nabuwwat conference to show the true face of Qadiyanis, etc etc. I am not mentioning the very derogatory remarks usually made agains the founder of the community. I don’t know how this can be called the praise of Holy Prophet (saw). So please be kind and tell me what was on the posters.
Naaray baazi.. yeah right. I am more used to the slogans like. Hazrat Khatamul Anbiyaa-Zindabaad, Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa-Sallallahu alyhe wasallam. These are the slogans made at the annual gatherings of the community. An ahmadi will happily die but will not even think of saying what you are implying.. Can you quote any “naara baazi”. And yes, 23 ahmadi students (most of them females) can easily be seen as a large mob doing “naaray bazi” infront of the innocent hundreds of IJT members and their supporters. Have some shame.. Have some shame.. again Have some shame!!!
on June 13th, 2008 at 9:51 PM
@ Hakeem…
call me names..kala angraiz…gora angraiz…you are down to name calling instead of addressing my experiences with the Mullah
at least other Muslims are safe from my hand and zaban…I doubt that they are safe from yours…
and YES…a 1000 times YES..reading good books DOES make me smarter than you..that statement alone shows me that you have sent you brain on a permanent vacation on the call of your Mullah’s..pathetic..(the book I mentioned is by one of the foremost Islamic intellectuals of Al Andulus)
PS: consult a scholar??? I follow the edicts and guidlines of the good folks at Jamiat Al Azhar…
Ignorant and tiny man you are Hakeem…
on June 13th, 2008 at 9:58 PM
@Hakeem..
Disgusting of you to compare me to Abu Jahal…
how DARE you suggest that I do not submit to Allah….
again..just proves my point that all I saw during my time with the Mullah is true and you bearded venemous Bakras are all the same..
NO MOMIN is safe from your Fitna…May Allah NEVER forgive you for comparing me to Abu Jahal…
May your hate consume you…
on June 13th, 2008 at 10:00 PM
@IUknown…
the only thing that is UNKNOWN to you….is your own Deen…
Shame on you man…Shame on YOU…
on June 14th, 2008 at 5:02 AM
Hakeem, sorry brother I don’t second your comment. DAN have his own reasons which he shared too in other posts to hate molvis(though almost all of them are not solid enough and all and are fictitious) but still it doesn’t give one permission to call other muslim Abu jhl or any other non Islamic celebrity. DAN might be more good muslim than me but have confusion regarding Islamic clergy due to many reasons. I think you should take your words back because “this is” same attitude which never bridges the gap b/w muslims and muslims-non Muslims. Infact I apologize DAN on behalf of HAKEEM.
@DAN: I have been busy in personal issues. I did read your reply and most of things u mentioned r pretty boring and old enough for me tht i m tired of reading tht. There are many other things which u side which comes under category of “Lies” coz I have witnessed those things. As soon as I get time, I would reply you. InfactI had “REQUESTED” you NOT to use this thread for OT rants.
on June 14th, 2008 at 6:17 AM
Dan, first, how old are you?! You are allowed to discuss here because our brother, Adnan, is allowing your comments to come through unlike what ATP does to its opponents, but you don’t have to pout.
Hakeem, calling somebody kala angraze is dirty. But, you are right, Dan is quite ignorant.
You like Ibn Rushd, huh? Why don’t you read his book Bidaayaatul Mujtahid and tell me what you think of him then. He had his mistakes, many in fact, but you don’t even deserve to call him your role model.
Since you hint several times of you being a Mom’min and a Muslim, please answer these question since you are debating here:
1) Is Qadiyaaniat a Muslim sect? Are Qadiyaanis Muslims?
2) Are they allowed to preach their religion in a Muslim country, if you think they are not Muslims.
3) Is secularism compatible with Islam? Is it allowed to cast aside shariah and implement man-made/secular laws on Muslims?
4) Are even those Shias ‘our brothers’ who curse the sahabah and call Ayesha zaaniya when Allah exonerated her by sending down Surah Noor (besides many other things)?
5) With regards to Islam, nobody cares what books you have read unless the books are about Islam. So, for the benefit of all, please tell us what books you have read on Islam?
6) Last, but not the least, do you believe Allah would misguide somebody if that person was sincere in his seeking the truth?
Please answer openly. InshaAllah, bro Adnan will allow your comments.
on June 14th, 2008 at 6:20 PM
@ Ibrahim..
I have NO time to suffer fools like you and answer your infantile questions…and am certainly not obliged to justify my faith to the likes of puny minds such as you…your questions are retarded and cheap and reads like a questionaire from Supah e Sahaba..that party of Munafiqs….
@ Adnan..
yes you had told me not to respond here but this thing has a life of it’s own for a while at least so I request your indulgance..
and while I appreciate you chastise Hakeem the prick for his hateful personal attack on me…I will take issue with you calling me a Liar..
my experience is very true and I saw what i saw and i heard what I heard and I dont remember you being there with me to experience it..so how in the world would you KNOW for sure that I lie? where is the proof?
I have no cause to make that up….
just because my experience brings to light what you rightly find ‘unpalatable’ doesnt mean it didnt happen…
PS: I am very clear about Islamic Clergy and no confusions there…,ie, there is not supposed to be a regimented clergy and I will never stand for a class of people who will seek to supplant themselves between Allah SWT and Muslims….
on June 15th, 2008 at 1:07 AM
“radde qadiyaniat, boycott of qadianis, qadiyani fitna, khatme nabuwwat conference to show the true face of Qadiyanis, etc etc. I am not mentioning the very derogatory remarks usually made agains the founder of the community. I don’t know how this can be called the praise of Holy Prophet (saw). So please be kind and tell me what was on the posters”
Yes, it all commes in the praise of NAbi(SAW). Pig in this world are even better than u
on June 15th, 2008 at 1:11 AM
Sorry, my last comment was for @Lutf ul islam. I think he needs a life
@dan: when u beleive in ur own mind only, u r surely gona fall astray. This is wat has happened. I dont mind ppl like u calling me any thing.
on June 15th, 2008 at 4:04 AM
DAN you are being emotional. calm down boy. How can I think of engagin with you further when you say things like:
I have NO time to suffer fools like you and answer your infantile questions
You would say something similar to me as well. In short offense is your best defence.
Yes your story about tableeghis is all made up because I myself has spent time with them and whatever u said doesnt even exist at all. Infact if yo ask any agha khani or shia who have attended tableeghi session will just laugh at you and yes agkha khanis,barelvis and Shias have attended several Karachi Ijtema every year. As i siad yo are mostly in confused state of mind so somebody made you fool in name of Tableeghis. Take it easy. With such tone of yours, i am not willing to engage with you further. We agree to disagree. However you are free to answer other commenters here, this place is all yours!
on June 15th, 2008 at 6:29 AM
Speaking of how “liberals” are these pathetic liberals like Najam et all, the real definition of freedom is actually that they censor anything which they don’t like. like folowing:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/826/najamst2.jpg
@DAN: We “Mullahs” will not censor any of your comment. *grin*
on June 17th, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Adnan,
AbuJahal and the yahud of Medina were sure about the prophethood of Muhammad (S.A.W.W) as sure as they were about the lineage of their sons. But they didn’t accept Muhammad (S.A.W.W).
Why? because their intellect was filled with arrogance. Their own pride was more important to them than to accept the truth.
So let DAN alone, my arguments or your arguments wouldn’t help. If they have a bit of sincerity in their hearts, only Allah can turn their hearts.
I don’t know about the hearts, no one does, but if anyone would write false theories and try to misguide others than I would call them what ever I like. My response is offcourse based on their writing and not based on whats in their heart.
Yes, I would call any one AbuJahal if he would try to stereotype Mullahs and start bashing Mullahs for their looks.
If I had bad experience with one black guy, I wouldn’t start to hate the whole black race.
on June 20th, 2008 at 1:41 AM
just to continue wid this story.. @adnan, those students made two muslims qadyani by giving them money, home etc etc. Those 2 unfortunte students were from poor family.
23 students, who were expelled from university have broken the law. Infact 4 terms of the law or Qadyani act.
So dont u think their expulision was correct? i know all of u havent read such thing in any major news paper as they have backed up by shia or qadyani majiority.
on July 9th, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Dear Mr. Adnan.
I think qadyanis need worst treatment then that. Your sympathies will give them time to take more muslims with them to the lowest section of Jahannum. u have such views because u dont have any idea who qadyanis are what are their beliefs, what their self created false prophet said, whats their mission, whats the difference between an other Kafir and a Zindeeq (qadyanis, agha khanis), whats the treatment of Zindeeq in Shariah. Until u find out the answers of these questions, u will not be able to know if u should have any sympathies for them or not. Yes we should be shameful as if this had been a rule of our beloved Hazrat Umar (R.A), I am sure not a single qadyani would have been alive on this earth.
on October 11th, 2008 at 9:07 PM
hi
I don’t agree with what you wrote really….
please ellaberate a bit more for me ;D
cheers