“Don’t abuse our Ataturk otherwise..”-Secular style of freedom of expression
A liberal became a victim of Secularism. From BBC:
A Turkish court has handed down a 15-month suspended jail term to an academic found guilty of insulting the state’s founder, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.
Professor Atilla had offended Turkishness a.ka Secularism by saying that early Turkish republic was not as progessive as it’s potrayed in textbooks. The statement was not tolerated by champions of freedom that is seculars & liberal govt and order to punish the professor to offend Ataturk’s vision.
Seculars and liberals always make lame attempts to prove themselves progressive,tolerant,modern and lover of freedom of expression. Seculars also don’t waste a minute to condemn their oponents i.e: those who follow religon and label them as extremist,fundamentalist or Mullah. Seculars also criticize their oponents as backward since they can’t face the criticism at all. Our made in Pakistan seculars even didn’t hesitate to label Jinnah as a secularist.
The professor further says:
I want to emphasise again and again that Turkey’s most pressing problem is freedom of expression
huh? no freedom in a SECULAR state? is he kidding?is it not true that seculars’ basic agenda to promote their relgion is Freedom of exrpression which they think was not provided by ANY religion thus promote seperation of church and state? Turkey is considered Vatican for Seculars and Liberals and they always sing praises of Turkey and always presented as ideal state where secularism is ACTUALLY implemented. So what if such things happen in Turkey and are not accepted by secularists. Hey! they still love freedom of expresion(about things which they despise) so if our in-house lefist can’t accept criticism then it should be ignored. itna chalta hay 
Such news have always proved my point that lefts who always promoted themselves champion of women rights,religions lovers and champion of freedom of expression are not less pathetic,moronic and fascist than those right wing guys who don’t like to listen oponents’ point of view. Pakistan needs to getrid of both kind of filth.
So my humble advice and request to all left-wingers(Seculars,Liberals,Humanist etc etc) here and there to first getrid of their own leftist fascist and extremist then come forward and criticize others to prove themselves a bit credible otherwise it’s darn funny and stupid to oppose something which they themselves promote one way or another.
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January 29th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Nice Adnan bahi
You rightly said “Pakistan needs to getrid of both kind of filth”.But it can only be possible when people seriously take all this as a filth. Majority remains silent or ignore and don’t take it as another kind of extremisim.
Another example though the link below was old and rarely updated but a nice look on how much these left-wingers(Seculars,Liberals,Humanist etc)are true in thier words.
http://inminds.com/hijab-ban/prisoners.html
February 2nd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
“What she (Turkey) calls new
Is the old song of Europe”
- Allama Iqbal
(An email from Turkey)
Dear brother in Islam,
I live in Turkey and am a lecturer at the university. I’d like to clarify from the outset that I don’t follow a particular sect or scholar. If there arises a matter for me that I cannot decide by relying on the Qur’an and/or the established hadith only, then I try to read as much as I can on the matter and seek to pick up the one that makes most sense and upon which there seems to be consensus.
“But anyways I cannot agree with “so-called-scholar” who is appreciating the
prohibition of hejab in universities- I saw a lot of interviews with him, and I wont forget one interview in which he “protected” the turkish governments decision of prohibiting hejjab. He was even blaming women who wear hejjab, why they “deny” knowledge!”
I’m sorry but I cannot agree with these statements. He does *not* appreciate the
prohibition. I also watched many interviews with him and his basic point regarding hejab is that if the Turkish parliament does not pass a law that allows wearing the hejab in the public institutions then women should dress modestly in the absence of hejab if they “want” to study or work in these institutions. He said the prohibition in question is not only unIslamic but also unconstitutional in secular terms.
But I guess you are familiar with the immense political weight of the Turkish military
establishment, which is itself VERY secular. So I know, you know and Prof. Ozturk knows that the prohibition in question is to stay for a long time.
The Qur’an calls on us to seek and share both worldly and religious knowledge. I hate the idea of going outside without a hejab. I feel exposed. But I dress modestly otherwise. Prof. Ozturk argues that in that particular case the sin falls upon those who prohibit the hejab rather than on those who are “obliged” to take their hijabs off and whose hearts are in the right place. But as always Allah knows best.
My impression is, that he is trying to make the ppl still dependent on asking a “Hoca” (Imam) instead of reflecting and asking themselves what their sense of life really is”
My impression is that he is absolutely against the so-called hocas and encourages people to read the Qur’an themselves rather than relying on others. Dear friends, many Turks unfortunately are not familiar with the Qur’an’s meaning, including those who pray five times a day. I’ve some relatives who claim to be very religious but when I ask them if they know the meaning of all the duas (supplication) they are reciting during the prayer they simply say no and think that memorising Arabic and repeating it is enough. As I said before I don’t always agree with Prof. Ozturk but I think his emphasis on the importance of reading the Qur’an in Turkish deserves praise in a secular society like ours. Hejab is only one of the serious problems in Turkey. If we need to overcome these problems we need to make some positive personal changes firstly at the individual level and we cannot accomplish that if we continue to remain ignorant of the Qur’an and the established hadith.
Does the Qur’an allow such things? I attribute the existence of such groups to the secular regime. Those at the top don’t make laws in accordance with Islam,
generations are brought up in ignorance of the deen and the void is filled by those
extremists whose understanding of the deen is limited and very selective and they seek to impose it upon others by force. Very dangerous situation. However, the Qur’an advises hope not despair. So let’s hope the new generation is going to be different from the previous ones and we’ll see a gradual re-awakening of the individual and the society to Islam. There are already millions of devout Turkish people but Insha Allah they will be more knowledgeable in their deen and effectively challenge the political elite one-day.
Take care,
Salam,
Your sister in Islam