Comments on: Nic Robertson’s Documentary and NIE report http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/07/23/nic-robertsons-documentary-and-nie-report/ Self discovering Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:45:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.1 By: Syed Faraz Mahmood http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/07/23/nic-robertsons-documentary-and-nie-report/#comment-1531 Syed Faraz Mahmood Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:00:45 +0000 http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/07/23/nic-robertsons-documentary-and-nie-report/#comment-1531 Might is ALWAYS right :( Might is ALWAYS right :(

]]> By: nota http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/07/23/nic-robertsons-documentary-and-nie-report/#comment-1535 nota Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:31:35 +0000 http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/07/23/nic-robertsons-documentary-and-nie-report/#comment-1535 Well I'll point you to one of the beacons of American Left called "Dissident Voice." And their idea of perusing peace and social justice is by publishing crap like <a href="http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/07/pakistan-is-the-epicenter-of-threat-to-world-survival/" rel="nofollow">"Pakistan is the Epicenter of Threat to World Survival"</a> by another anti-war leftie Glen Ford. When I challenged their arguments and asked them how the views expressed were any different than those in the NIE and the fascists, they copped out and replied "Oh my calling Pakistan "monstrous" we mean "huge." When I pointed out Pakistan was by no means "huge" they tried "Oh, we mean it was huge before partition." Still not accepting that I asked them to admit they had either screwed up or they were just a front for the other side to which they shot back "We really don't much care for Pakistani State." Brave souls, eh? Well I’ll point you to one of the beacons of American Left called “Dissident Voice.” And their idea of perusing peace and social justice is by publishing crap like “Pakistan is the Epicenter of Threat to World Survival” by another anti-war leftie Glen Ford. When I challenged their arguments and asked them how the views expressed were any different than those in the NIE and the fascists, they copped out and replied “Oh my calling Pakistan “monstrous” we mean “huge.” When I pointed out Pakistan was by no means “huge” they tried “Oh, we mean it was huge before partition.” Still not accepting that I asked them to admit they had either screwed up or they were just a front for the other side to which they shot back “We really don’t much care for Pakistani State.” Brave souls, eh?

]]> By: Kumail http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/07/23/nic-robertsons-documentary-and-nie-report/#comment-1539 Kumail Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:56:53 +0000 http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/07/23/nic-robertsons-documentary-and-nie-report/#comment-1539 Although I agree to your comments in some bits Adnan, yet I am somewhat startled by your callous use of terms such as islamists and liberals. Do you really believe people with a taliban agenda are proper muslims, people who use mosques to wage warfare are true representative of the religion? Since when did Islam allow harming civilians in path of god. Who gave these supposed islamists the authority to impose their opinions and ideology by force on all and sundry. When you label these highly notorious and ignorant war mongers as Islamists you are doing a huge dis-service to the spirit of religion. Although the term has been abused and beaten to death, yet terrorists still is the best way to describe the se individuals that you allege to be islamist. I dont care much for Musharafs regime but the fact remains that there are forces within in the country that are exploiting religion for creating civil and social unrest and at the moment the only person with the khanuas to check the rise of this form of terrorism is the army itself. I guess holding such an opinion would render me to be what you have called a liberal. It is these liberals who have slaved for the progress of this country since its inception. Not your 'islamist' fellows who have done nothing but malign the country in every possible way. The conclusion that I would lead to is this; stop supporting the people who are ruining the foundations of your nation. Having a difference of opinion with an existing regime does not mean that you support the strongest opposition that the regime faces. The bigger threat you face right now is from these so called islamist who challenge you existence as a free an independent human being who wants to practice is belief in manners of his choice. Although I agree to your comments in some bits Adnan, yet I am somewhat startled by your callous use of terms such as islamists and liberals. Do you really believe people with a taliban agenda are proper muslims, people who use mosques to wage warfare are true representative of the religion?
Since when did Islam allow harming civilians in path of god. Who gave these supposed islamists the authority to impose their opinions and ideology by force on all and sundry. When you label these highly notorious and ignorant war mongers as Islamists you are doing a huge dis-service to the spirit of religion. Although the term has been abused and beaten to death, yet terrorists still is the best way to describe the se individuals that you allege to be islamist.
I dont care much for Musharafs regime but the fact remains that there are forces within in the country that are exploiting religion for creating civil and social unrest and at the moment the only person with the khanuas to check the rise of this form of terrorism is the army itself.
I guess holding such an opinion would render me to be what you have called a liberal. It is these liberals who have slaved for the progress of this country since its inception. Not your ‘islamist’ fellows who have done nothing but malign the country in every possible way.
The conclusion that I would lead to is this; stop supporting the people who are ruining the foundations of your nation. Having a difference of opinion with an existing regime does not mean that you support the strongest opposition that the regime faces. The bigger threat you face right now is from these so called islamist who challenge you existence as a free an independent human being who wants to practice is belief in manners of his choice.

]]> By: admin http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/07/23/nic-robertsons-documentary-and-nie-report/#comment-1544 admin Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:24:33 +0000 http://kadnan.com/blog/2007/07/23/nic-robertsons-documentary-and-nie-report/#comment-1544 Kumail, first of all I was not talking about Talibans. Second I would like to know what do you know about TALIBANS? don't give me examples of what you learnt from Western sources. Talibans are not saints but better than current govt of Afghanistan and women today are more in danger than past. You should read biography of Yvonne Ridley which she wrote after getting released from Taliban. Her inside view is entirely different than propaganda. And i don't need to tell you that that alcholic woman is a Muslim now. NO, I am not supporting any kind of extremism,either by left or wrong but today the way everyone is called a Mullah or right wing extremist is not sane either. Kumail, first of all I was not talking about Talibans. Second I would like to know what do you know about TALIBANS? don’t give me examples of what you learnt from Western sources. Talibans are not saints but better than current govt of Afghanistan and women today are more in danger than past.

You should read biography of Yvonne Ridley which she wrote after getting released from Taliban. Her inside view is entirely different than propaganda. And i don’t need to tell you that that alcholic woman is a Muslim now.

NO, I am not supporting any kind of extremism,either by left or wrong but today the way everyone is called a Mullah or right wing extremist is not sane either.

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