Yesterday i came across this by Nina Shea who criticized the syllabus of Saudi schools and colleges which according to her are preaching haterd towards non-Muslims,she has quoted quranic verses which according to her are not *moderate*,from the article:

an ideology of hatred toward Christians and Jews and Muslims who do not follow Wahhabi doctrine remains in this area of the public school system. The texts teach a dualistic vision, dividing the world into true believers of Islam (the “monotheists”) and unbelievers (the “polytheists” and “infidels”).

So what’s wrong in this categorization?Does she mean that bible does not categorize true or false followers?Let me quote one verse from bible:

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB).

According to this verse whoever claims false prophecy ,must be killed and according to Christian and jews belief,Muhammad(SAW) was not a Prophet.Will anyone claim here that Sunday schools skip this verse which appears to be violent towards non-bible followers that is Muslims ,hindus etc?

Hey what about this verse which tells readers that God is a violent personality(Godforbid)?

I will sweep away everything in all your land,” says the LORD. “I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity,” says the LORD. “I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship. I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who used to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD’s guidance or seek my blessings.” (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT).

According to this God of Bible is so violent that He would kill everyone on earth including Judah.Did nina bother to read this sick verse in Bible?

And why non-muslims get hurt with the word Infidel?Infidel is a person who rejects God and religions like Christianity,Islam and Judaism commonly use this term for non-followers of their religion.For instance I am an Infidel for Christianity and Judaism.So I dont think this term is offensive that Nina mentioned it in her article.

According to Nina

Undeterred by Wahhabism’s historically fringe status, Saudi Arabia is trying to assert itself as the world’s authoritative voice on Islam

I dont believe in it and its not 1% true at all.Saudia doesn’t need to claim itself an Islamic authority at all because we muslims never got such signals from people of Saudia or Govt.Saudia is Holy only because It has two holy cities and most of famous Islamic celebrities were born there and It is hub of Islam.When its already a Hub then they dont need to make any effort to claim themselves as a Authentic Source in Islamic world.

If you talk about preaching,then for your info it is Pakistan which is the nucleus of Islamic teaching not Saudia and many groups travel across the gloabe for sake of preaching.Is preaching a bad thing?definitely not.

From article:

” Every religion other than Islam is false.”

I already discussed that above that Christians and jews think similarly for non-bible followers.

Nina quotes:

“Whoever obeys the Prophet and accepts the oneness of God cannot maintain a loyal friendship with those who oppose God and His Prophet, even if they are his closest relatives.”

“It is forbidden for a Muslim to be a loyal friend to someone who does not believe in God and His Prophet, or someone who fights the religion of Islam.”

First of all Nina didn’t give reference of the verse here but i would sure quote verse here.

O you who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide such evildoers. (5:51)

But Nina didnt look up the Quran which categorize after 6 verses that what Kind of non-muslims can’t be friends.Read below:Arabic Text is given here

O you who believe, do not befriend those among the recipients of previous scripture who mock and ridicule your religion, nor shall you befriend the disbelievers. You shall reverence GOD, if you are really believers.

Suppose i have a friend,say hes muslim too and we have spent good time together.I trust him blindly and dicuss my problem with him.One day he abuses my parents,now how should I react?Should I kiss him back?In first reaction,I am violent in nature i would fight him back otherwise i would quit the friendship.Will I be appreciated by other people if i carry on my friendship with him?

Thats all God says in Quran that you should not keep company of those who offend Islam.This verse doesnt give message that Islam forbids friendship with non-muslims.Here in particular verse,the word Aulia has been used which has several meanigs in Arabic,but general its taken as “ally”.

So what i was saying that Islam doesnt stop us mingling with non-muslims.I would like to quote an intresting Quranic verse here which non-muslims would not have bothered to

You will find that the worst enemies of the believers are the Jews and the idol worshipers. And you will find that the closest people in friendship to the believers are those who say, “We are Christian.” This is because they have priests and monks among them, and they are not arrogant(5:82).

Quran says that Chrisitans are closest ally of muslims other than Jews or Idol worshippers and believe me it is 100% right.Take example of Israel’s violence in middle east or India(let me be honest here rather pretending that there is Good relationship between India and Pakistan).

So did nina find this verse?I net NIna would never have read quran in her life and go thru details given in Quran otherwse she coudnt comeup with this old topic in her article.This is very old discussion and one can find easily google for particular topic for instance this one.

Aha,an intresting biblic verse for same topic that is befriending with other religion followers.

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

According to this verse those family members who quit biblic religion must be killed.What would Nina say about this verse? *grin*

then she quotes:

“As cited in Ibn Abbas: The apes are Jews, the people of the Sabbath; while the swine are the Christians, the infidels of the communion of Jesus.”

First of all i dont find reference here so not sure she quoted right or wrong.Even if it’s right then there should be no DOUBT that Children of Israel of that time that Jews were getting naugty enough and God actually punished them(Killing prophets like Zacriah and Jhon the Baptist is not something which God would like anyway) but there should be no doubt that its Islam made story.Read what bible says about these naugty Childern of Israel.

The LORD said to Moses, “How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them.

I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them, but I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they.”(Numbers:14:11-12)

not one of the men who saw my glory and the miraculous signs I performed in Egypt and in the desert but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times-

not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their forefathers. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it. (Numbers:14:22-23)

Exodus(32:7-9)

Then the LORD said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt.

They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’

I have seen these people,” the LORD said to Moses, “and they are a stiff-necked people.

But if the LORD brings about something totally new, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them, with everything that belongs to them, and they go down alive into the grave, then you will know that these men have treated the LORD with contempt.” (Numbers 16:30)

Above biblic verse clearly indicate that Jews were punished and they were even kicked out of Holy land around 3,000 years back.And God was talking Moses(AS) to give them punishment and informing them what HE will do with them.Specially the last verse from Numbers in which its mentioned that earth opened mouth and swallowed them.I believe its linking of their transformation into apes because such term is commonly used in modern world as world as a pharse for people who get disappeared all of sudden for long time.Since they transformed into apes so ppl of Israel couldnot recognize them at all or they had quit that place.So nina should not be worried about the verse since it was referred in Bible too.

according to Nina

“They are the Jews, whom God has cursed and with whom He is so angry that He will never again be satisfied [with them].”

I already quoted bible as evidence that Jews were really punsihed rhat time by god.

Then she discusses about Jihad which was discussed many times by other authors.The central idea of her article was that Muslims cant have non muslims friends.I will end up my post with following two verses from Quran which tells who could be frienof muslims.

GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable.(Quran 60:8)

GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors. (Quran 60:9).

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